Here is the entire seris of chats i had with the thief, Lazarus
This was the last chat i had with him
Lazarus: ive no idea about modelling and texutring nevermind all of the other steps. easier i just may aswell put the other mods back on my own site and claim UDM as my own har har
47 minutes
3:37 PM
me: Your joking right?
3:42 PM
Lazarus: Bison looks like a very clean, neat model
But i've no idea how to make something like that
i just tried sticking some shapes together in 3d max..wot a mess lol
3:43 PM
me: You need to look at some modeling tutorials,it`s basicly pick a primitive and the nstart extrudeing the daces
3:44 PM
the bison was just a spher, i removed half od it and then used the extrude and bevel tools to make the mesh
3:45 PM
Lazarus: so you just edit one shape to make the whole model
3:50 PM
me: depends on the model type, some use a lot of things, some va nbe made from a single primitive, depends on how muc hyou practice
3:51 PM
Lazarus: ah yeah complex stuff
3:53 PM
no point wasting time reading tutorials, i've never been much good at drawing / graphics stuff anyway
3:59 PM
im going back to working on my site now
when its famous ill get someone else to finish the rest of the ships for early ages mod for me thanks for the ones you did though lol
Here is the one from before
Lazarus: im puzzled the video filter i installed isn't working lol
6 minutes
8:35 PM
me: what video filter?
8:39 PM
Lazarus: for my site
im uploading my dominon mod later tonight
but i need go out and vote first
8:40 PM
only not sure if ill go as i dont want my brother jumping on the pc while im out
8:44 PM
me: you don`t have a dominion mod do you, are you actually going to try and rip off another modder agin
Lazarus: Ultimate Dominion Mod
and All the Ages
and as soon as I get time my most recent work
Galaxies Mod
me: They are not your mods, why are you stealing other peoples work again
Lazarus: which includes planet animation, etc...
8:45 PM
They are mine I worked hard on them
me: No they are not, i have been in the botf modding community for 10 years mate
8:46 PM
and the planet animations pack is not your work either
Try to recall what happened the last time you did this ok
8:50 PM
Lazarus: you are not threatening to interfear my site again i hope
if you give me any trouble i will make it 10x as made before you -- you should just remember that ok
8:51 PM
i have my own domain and hosting this time
any trouble i get will result in your sites being hit back 10 times worse
8:52 PM
me: I doubt it, you seem to forget how many people come to my sites, trust me i do not want to do this again but if i have to i will
8:53 PM
Lazarus: just dont do the spam thing again ok
me:
http://birthofthefederation.net/forum/v ... ?f=12&t=40 Lazarus: and dont put insults about me on your main page..do you know how many comments i had to delete from my guestbook last time of angry ppl
me: you already have one
not me btw a bot spammer
8:54 PM
Lazarus: that was you wasnt it
me: people get angry when modders get ripped off, did you not learn this from the last time
nope thats a bot
check the ip
8:55 PM
i hope to resolve this, i don`t want a war
Currently working on Early Ages Mod, I have modelled Bison and Olmypus Mon so far
you have have you?
Lazarus: yes
8:56 PM
i have them right here on my hard drive
me: you did not model them thoguh
i did
Lazarus: did you
can you proove it
me: yes
8:57 PM
Lazarus: ok i have 1 offer for you and 1 only
8:58 PM
you have to work for me as modder for as long as a i say but at least 2 months
3 models a day
and i give you credit for everything
ill even say on my site that you made galaxys and planet animation pack
you can have credit for your work + more if you accept my offfer
8:59 PM
me: I did not make the animation pack, i would not take credit for another modders work
that would kill me in the mod community
Lazarus: why
everyone would love you more then they do now
no because my site will be famous and i will tell everyone you are honest and telling the truth
9:00 PM
i have to go and vote but ill be up all night tonight working on site
think about my offer. its your only chance to have credit for UDM
me: You don`t get it do you, to take another modders work and call it your own is death to any modder
9:01 PM
Your shout mate, either do not steal anothers work or it`ll be war again
26 minutes
9:28 PM
Lazarus: are you going to create 2 models a day for me or not?
9:29 PM
if you do that I will do whatever you want with the other mods and content etc
9:30 PM
" Now that i am no longer helping on the early ages mod i`ll try and get these wrapped up, just to stop the nagging :~)"
what a moron
9:31 PM
so i take it you are not willing to do the work of at least 2 models a day
wot a shame you could of had whatever you wanted oh well
9:32 PM
me: ? are you insane how do you expect two models a day?
9:33 PM
Lazarus: well for someone like you that should be easy
it seems it took you about 30 mins to do Bison
9:34 PM
ok...well lets say 5 - 7 models per week and see how you handle that for now
9:35 PM
me: not gonna happen
Lazarus: fine
i will choose whatever mods i like for the keeping
and someone else will simply finish all the ages models for me
me: really who the hell will do work for a modder who steals from other moders?
9:36 PM
Lazarus: Not the way it's gonna be seen
botf.NET will be the center of the botf community before too long
i will have talented 3D modellers only too eager to help
you could have had a high place in my community
but not now
9:37 PM
me: Trust me that will not happen, between my sites and the stg you site will be ground into the dirt
Lazarus: Whatever...im warning you not to cause trouble...that is unless you want a few viruses unleashed to you r system
9:38 PM
im closeing google mail now, need to concentrate on site
9:39 PM
me: lmao, your screwed
59 minutes
10:39 PM
Lazarus: check the AFC forum
they're fucked
im gonna spam all the old posts
bring them to the top of the forum lmao
10:43 PM
your afc site is spammed to the fuck dude
10:45 PM
me: thats not my site
10:46 PM
Lazarus: consider this a warning
if anything happens to my site i can make it a lot worse
errm yeah it is
you own afc and botf 2
10:47 PM
me: no, kevin hurly owns afc
i own star-trek games and star-trek-mods
notf2 is a subdomain on one of my sites
Lazarus: who the fuck is kevin hurly
10:48 PM
me: You don`t know much do you, afc is armada fleet command, you just pissed off a lot of people
Lazarus: i hardly cool a half a dozen botf fans "a lot of people"
i can handle it mate
10:49 PM
me: erm, no cos he also owns armada fleet command, the biggest mod site for armada
Lazarus: you mean BOTF and Armada sites are owned by the same people?
me: botf site is a subdomain of that site
10:50 PM
Lazarus: oh well kevin hurly will blame you
for locking out my thread
me: erm no, he`s a mate of mine
10:51 PM
Lazarus: he was till this happen lol
10:53 PM
me: your as thick as shit, do you actually think he will be pissed at me for locking out the thread of a mod thief?
10:54 PM
Lazarus: yes i dont see what forum rules i broke in THAT PARTICULAR THREAD
me: who`s entire conversations i have here to post on my websites?
Lazarus: what
you cant be serious
me: your a thief, your getting banned
yes i am
Lazarus: youve seen how much damage i do
you dont want to annoy me again
im warning you
you aint posting anything about my sites
me: thats not damage, thats just an annoyance
Lazarus: lol the modding forum is fucked dude
10:55 PM
me: prepare for hell pal, you sked for it
Lazarus: and general is about to get it
me: not a problem
7 minutes
11:02 PM
Lazarus: haha Krazee XXL hates you man
he just told me in PM he had issue with you in the past
me: sure he did
11:03 PM
Lazarus: yep
he asked me why i was spamming and i told him youd betray me by refusing to work on my mod anymore
and he said
jigalypuff?
I don't like him, too and also had my issues with him...
see, everyone in botf community turn against you
11:04 PM
and support me
Anyway ill tell you what
im done spamming afc for now
but remember what i said
its just a warning.
bye
11:05 PM
me: good news, afc just came online, your banned
58 minutes
12:04 AM
Lazarus: wanker where timmys stories thread gone
i needed that i was goona copy it to my site!!!
me: oops i must have deleted it
Lazarus: thundercherro is pissed with you
you shouldnt have spammer my boards he said
me: wow really?
12:05 AM
Lazarus: do you have another copy of the stories
i need it
and its my work
and my save files
me: strange that he did not mention that when i am just talking to him
a copy of what storys?
12:06 AM
Lazarus: the thread on afc
that timmy started
it had save files and screenshots of stories written from BOTF games
i might be able to get the save files back from a 4shared account
but i need the screenshots
12:07 AM
whats happend to all the posts
that timmy made???
me: i fucking deleted your posts you moron
Lazarus: what all of them
but they wernt all spam
i had about 75 normal posts
me: so what, you think i`ll let you clutter up my forums with your shite you thief
12:08 AM
Lazarus: whatever moron ill just have to start new stories but you'll be sorry for doing this...your finished as respected modder... i am modder KING now
I can`t be bothered to show anymore
